Comments on: My Orange SPV E650 SUCKS!!!! http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/ Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:59:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: andrew http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8956 andrew Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:34:18 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8956 Well, it now seems as though this troublesome E650 has died!! I powered it up this morning, pressed the "Contacts" button to look up a number, and the contacts app crashed and I wasn't able to power the phone off by using the power button, so I had to remove the battery. When I powered the phone back on, it hung at the Orange logo. Again, the only way to reboot the phone is to remove the battery, but each time it hangs at the Orange logo (but the signal and Bluetooth lights are flashing...!)... I think I've reached the end of the line with this handset - the question is, do I go for a replacement E650, or something altogether different? Well, it now seems as though this troublesome E650 has died!! I powered it up this morning, pressed the “Contacts” button to look up a number, and the contacts app crashed and I wasn’t able to power the phone off by using the power button, so I had to remove the battery. When I powered the phone back on, it hung at the Orange logo. Again, the only way to reboot the phone is to remove the battery, but each time it hangs at the Orange logo (but the signal and Bluetooth lights are flashing…!)… I think I’ve reached the end of the line with this handset – the question is, do I go for a replacement E650, or something altogether different?

]]> By: Paul http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8955 Paul Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:44:32 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8955 I do not use the Gmail Applet. I simply created a new e-mail account it got all my settings for Gmail automatically and that has seemed to work fine. WiFi - Why this unit loses the WPA key randomly is beyond me. This must be a goosed phone. Battery Life - With WiFi, Bluetooth on, the battery sucks. A little over a day with about 20 minutes talk time. Turn the WiFi Off, Bluetooth and I get about 3 days. I also think that the start/call history buttons are a little small. The T9 predictive text takes a little getting used to. especially as it predicts the next word as well. (that can lead to some very strange texts if not checked!!) Media Player, seemed it can remember when the USB cable has been plugged in, It decided that it would not play sound if the USB cable was plugged in, and removing while the tune was playing did not help, a restart of media player was required. It seems as though this "orange" version has a few flaws. I simply can not see WM6 being this bad on HTC hardware. So I sit and wait for a rom update. I do not use the Gmail Applet. I simply created a new e-mail account it got all my settings for Gmail automatically and that has seemed to work fine.

WiFi – Why this unit loses the WPA key randomly is beyond me. This must be a goosed phone.

Battery Life – With WiFi, Bluetooth on, the battery sucks. A little over a day with about 20 minutes talk time. Turn the WiFi Off, Bluetooth and I get about 3 days.

I also think that the start/call history buttons are a little small. The T9 predictive text takes a little getting used to. especially as it predicts the next word as well. (that can lead to some very strange texts if not checked!!)

Media Player, seemed it can remember when the USB cable has been plugged in, It decided that it would not play sound if the USB cable was plugged in, and removing while the tune was playing did not help, a restart of media player was required.

It seems as though this “orange” version has a few flaws. I simply can not see WM6 being this bad on HTC hardware. So I sit and wait for a rom update.

]]> By: christer http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8953 christer Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:09:51 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8953 Crashes: My SPV650 crashed about 15 times the first 2 days, and I also experinced the problem that sliding the keyboard back and forth would sometimes either close down the phone or it would hang. I called Orange, got a new phone which I have now had for a week without a single crash. So apparently there are hardware problems with some specimen Crashes:
My SPV650 crashed about 15 times the first 2 days, and I also experinced the problem that sliding the keyboard back and forth would sometimes either close down the phone or it would hang. I called Orange, got a new phone which I have now had for a week without a single crash. So apparently there are hardware problems with some specimen

]]> By: andrew http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8952 andrew Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:35:46 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8952 Paul - I followed Doug's advice and did a hard reset on the phone; then, before installing any apps I applied the the application unlock from Orange (France).... Although this seemed to fix the "spinning wheel" problem with app installs, I still can't use the Gmail mobile Java client; tmail.exe crashes every time I use it; memory management is appalling (I can't have Splashblog, Media Player and IE running at the same time, but this didn't see to bother my C600) and I still can't connect to an AP with any kind of security applied to it. Like you, I'm not at all impressed with the Orange version of this handset... Let's hope they issue a ROM update soon! Paul – I followed Doug’s advice and did a hard reset on the phone; then, before installing any apps I applied the the application unlock from Orange (France)…. Although this seemed to fix the “spinning wheel” problem with app installs, I still can’t use the Gmail mobile Java client; tmail.exe crashes every time I use it; memory management is appalling (I can’t have Splashblog, Media Player and IE running at the same time, but this didn’t see to bother my C600) and I still can’t connect to an AP with any kind of security applied to it. Like you, I’m not at all impressed with the Orange version of this handset… Let’s hope they issue a ROM update soon!

]]> By: Paul http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8951 Paul Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:30:00 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8951 Well I have had my SPV650 for a little over 48 hours and I have had loads of crashes. I am really disapointed with this phone. I was hooked by the reviews but sadly the phone simply does not measure up. It does not connect to my Windows Vista Business PC. I have installed the latest WMDC software and it still fails to connect. I have tried USB, and Bluetooth. I am expecting a firmware upgrade soon because there must be plenty of users experiencing the same problems. As for the wifi, I'm not sure, it seems to connect to my AP using WPA/PSK/TKIP and Mac filtering. But I am not sure that the browser is using this. However it must be because I can view a website on the same intranet. certainly disapointed by the removal of Live Messenger. I use the MSN network and will not be too impressed if the planned client from orange will not allow me to connect to my msn contacts. Plus I have a funny feeling the service will be chargable and probably locked to GSM so they get revenue. Overall I have to give this a sad 2.5/10 Well I have had my SPV650 for a little over 48 hours and I have had loads of crashes. I am really disapointed with this phone. I was hooked by the reviews but sadly the phone simply does not measure up.

It does not connect to my Windows Vista Business PC. I have installed the latest WMDC software and it still fails to connect. I have tried USB, and Bluetooth.

I am expecting a firmware upgrade soon because there must be plenty of users experiencing the same problems.

As for the wifi, I’m not sure, it seems to connect to my AP using WPA/PSK/TKIP and Mac filtering. But I am not sure that the browser is using this. However it must be because I can view a website on the same intranet. certainly disapointed by the removal of Live Messenger. I use the MSN network and will not be too impressed if the planned client from orange will not allow me to connect to my msn contacts. Plus I have a funny feeling the service will be chargable and probably locked to GSM so they get revenue.

Overall I have to give this a sad 2.5/10

]]> By: andrew http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-8948 andrew Tue, 22 May 2007 19:05:35 +0000 http://andrewterry.com/2007/05/21/my-orange-spv-e650-sucks/#comment-8948 Doug - thanks for taking the time to comment. Yeah, I did mix my rant topics; but, it annoys me that phone makers can't standardise things like AC adapter connections, and headphone socket connections (and I do feel that microSD is kind of pointless - IMHO, someone just wanted to see if they could reduce miniSD). Reading through your blog, and the great experience you're having with the E650, I think you're right - my unit is duff; and maybe that's why I'm so disappointed - the E650 *is* the phone that I wanted to upgrade to. I'll do what you suggest, and get the phone unlocked, and reset back to the default, and see how I go (how did you get WiFi working, btw?). Cheers, Andrew. Doug – thanks for taking the time to comment. Yeah, I did mix my rant topics; but, it annoys me that phone makers can’t standardise things like AC adapter connections, and headphone socket connections (and I do feel that microSD is kind of pointless – IMHO, someone just wanted to see if they could reduce miniSD). Reading through your blog, and the great experience you’re having with the E650, I think you’re right – my unit is duff; and maybe that’s why I’m so disappointed – the E650 *is* the phone that I wanted to upgrade to. I’ll do what you suggest, and get the phone unlocked, and reset back to the default, and see how I go (how did you get WiFi working, btw?). Cheers, Andrew.

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